It's pronounced Paw-rick, not Pad-raig. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. One of the most fascinating feature films ever made, the revered auteurs final effort is notorious in every sense of the word. And the redeemer's pubic hair is also trimmed the same. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. The big question is how did the mask get there, and who left it? The goal of yoga practice was to STOP all that useless babble---because that is how a person actually makes the breakthrough to see reality as it is. MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, ME> You can identify Pollack's eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups.>. >Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >her voice in his head while looking over the body. Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because it> gives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerful> position - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing to> the demands and realities of Ziegler's world). ">> "Victor what can I say. Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. Statanic mass? > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." >>He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >>somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Is that how > you> would describe it? and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing > this," Mandy says, "Ya." and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." I mean hewas filmed only in england, but the photography behind him in thatglove clapping shot is projected or whatever and so that means that hedidn't care that mucha bout switching things around like actresses andstuff, it's about masks anyway the movie is. Next: The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? >>>>>>>> And even if it was clear, even if he hadreferred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)party, it would still be uncertain, because, 1. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any > way. A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. 0. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is still a mystery. And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. Somerton could hardly be described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.' Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? So is Ziegler lying? I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. He is not exactly > voicing his thoughts. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). 1. Deleuze probably realized how stupid he was before he jumped out that window. Perhaps it> would have worked better if there had been a photo in the news> article. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? in fact if you look very closely, Mandy on the Slab, winks. and> pleading with her to take off her mask? The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. Here was Stanley Kubrick, for many the worlds greatest living filmmaker, returning with his first finished project in 12 years a sexually provocative adult drama, utterly shrouded in secrecy, starring pre-eminent Hollywood power couple Tom In Eyes Wide Shut, Abigail Good plays a `Mysterious Woman'. > So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) this> would 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? WebThe bodies of more completely nude masked women assail Bills voyeuristic eyes (and those of the audience). >He also must have recognized> the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a> tinge of distinctive accent. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. '<<<<<<<<<<<> I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". > Mandy was not the same woman. Are we not acceptingZiegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectivelyinterpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlierevents of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeplysuspect account? What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. at the> ceremony/orgy. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. If he were> Ziegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privately> communicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly as> possible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Ziegler> subsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like a> complete fool')? People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The He wasn't positive. Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? I'm your Mutineer~ - Warren Zevon- -. Put on some headphones and listen. Somerton could hardly be >>>>>> described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. He may literally have to go underground, or to the moon, etc. >What else could he call it? or psychotherapists. WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a But which'party' is Bill referring to? > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? > anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible > mumbling),<<<, > No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare > kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." ANSWERS: 4. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? If those 2-3 women were supposed to be the same woman, Kubrick would, I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <, In rec.arts.movies.past-films Harry Bailey <, On Feb 26, 3:27pm, "Avoid normal situations. Let him go! Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let the> women there know that there was an interloper? >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? SoZiegler's principal role in the film and in this scene is as anunscrupulous defender of wealth and power and as a power-brokerintermediary (laying down the Law while also routinely transgressingit), threateningly indicating to Bill just what the rich and powerfulcan do and what they can get away with. andpleading with her to take off her mask? >He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. The main point, was that that kind of mental approach to things, is actually the biggest impediment to focusing the mind. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. Barcaluv. The movie went through post-production following Stanley Kubrick's death, though some have argued about how much it represents his intended vision. But he can't know for sure (because she was> masked at Somerton).>, >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy >> all along,>>, > If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all> along. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. He treated her as a not-very-important> patient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery.>, Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast.>, > How? From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? It's just idiotic. Mandy was not the same woman. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. And Milich was expecting him. He only ultimately acceptsZiegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). > The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy > all along, If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? Whereas atSomerton, Ziegler and the others only first become suspicious of Billas an interloper because of how he arrived there (in a taxi ratherthan a limousine). Changes within the building seem to lack that phone booth sense of urgency and drama. "Kelpzoidzl" wrote in message news:47881976$0$11015$4c36@roadrunner.com "Kelpzoidzl" wrote in message. The point, however, is that even if all three female> 'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the same> character), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not to> mention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world."<<<<<<<<<<>. Superman movies must keep him in the pre 80s, or he needsto do some serious upgrading. Poor Clark. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world. Is that how youwould describe it? > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. I am ready > > On Jan 11, 6:50 am, dumb_n00b wrote: > > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. In contrast to the Ziegler-Bill poolroom scene clearing up allambiguities (Ziegler's seeming 'commonsensical' and desublimating'explanation' of the Somerton ritual), as many have complained in thepast, this scene instead multiplies and amplifies the uncertainties.Ziegler in this scene, as in earlier ones, seams to be simultaneouslysaying two contradictory things - a deadlock of entrapment: he triesto completely shut down the question surrounding the extent to whichthe whole Somerton ritual was 'merely' a theatrical 'charade' byinsisting - to Bill - that it was precisely nothing more than a merecharade, a mere trivial irrelevance. Can it really compete with Rupert? at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from> the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name> "Amanda," then it started to come together. (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" It was in the trailer or a TV spot. --alt.flame Special Forces"All successful software gets changed." Orgy? because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? i'm sure he knew that aaudiences would be sophisticated enough toexamine the bodies as bill is doing in the morgue. Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. I never said Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when > we study it. But it is obvious from Kubrick's portrayal of Somerton that thewomen are there purely as sex-workers, are there toservice the inner sanctum of male patriarchy in the ritualized desire-space of the power elite at Somerton. <<<<<<<<< It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing.>, > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ziegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectively> interpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlier> events of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeply> suspect account? The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns > Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. Please either stop orshape up. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > The poolroom scene is an amazing piece of extreme understatement, while at. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. There are many aspects of it that ARE still a mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. In one of the final scenes, Bill comes home and as he comes to bed he sees Alice (Nicole Kidman) sleeping next to the same Venetian mask he wore at the party. Much as you often dream of people, in a distorted way, whom you met while awake. I think this feeling of > guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, > etc. Bill is still even denying he knows what Zeigler is talking about till Zeigler says "I was there at the house. There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. Given that you have, as you already admitted, absolutely nounderstanding of the terms used or indeed the context in which theywere used, your pedantry is now exposed as pure and contemptiblefraudulence. Yes, and we could speculate even further: there are no dream sequenceswhatsoever in the film, Alice's story about the navel officer being arecollection of her past desires, not a portrayed dream as such atall. Somerton could hardly be> >>>>>> described (and>> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? When Bill goes to the hospital, he asks to see patient Amanda Curren (sp), the name he saw in the newspaper. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." <<<<<<<<<<<<<. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply >> "Rhizomatic uncertainties"?>> I actually had to look that up. > But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the events> at Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. at the > ceremony/orgy. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). <<<<<<<<<<<>. >>In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is)>, > So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figure> on the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is simple. > It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. >>What else could he call it? WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. He didn't recognise her voice. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curransuffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make aconnection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafethat set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier servedas Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. <<<<<<<<<<. ". <<<<<<<<. When we see the naked corpse's face from the overhead shot, at first it's hard to tell if it's really Mandy's face, because of the expression and the angle, her combed back hair etc. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. >>on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >>him. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. But the worst thing is your silly and smug arrogance. As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. It was a party nevertheless. Clearly, of course,the Somerton ritual is a mirror of Ziegler's party (with each event inmany ways serving as the 'truth' of the other): whether its Mandy atthe party or at the ritual or at both, the outcome is still the same:a corpse in a morgue. In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. Isn't that - again - amazing; except that you're not even unfortunateenough to have a mindless head, given the large quantities ofbubblewrap - and nothing else - between your ears take care, MrKelpless. He treated her as a not-very-importantpatient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery. What a joke to call them "philosophers." He was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," were killers. This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film audience. Congratulations. Poor pitiful morons that we all are -thank Bog he's put off Nirvana for so long. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I know." Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow our mind. 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